does anybody want back shunting

[alexfuru]

i think the should add shunting back again

im saying this because i think it would be very cool

and at the same time practical to say have some other method of signaling

so i feel like it would be good to add it back

but does anybody else want it back too?

[sf_giants15]

What do you mean by "want it back"?

If Im not mistaken shunting was not yet introduced.

The Simrail Team stated that it will come later on after full release of the game

[jeroezie]

I am not shure what you mean by adding in 'back'. But I really hope that the developers will add shunting to the game soon!

Edited December 19, 2023 by jeroezie

[Fightdrug]

the only shunting operations are right now in SP by the zawierce scenarios 🤔

[SugaCane]

Shunting was enabled in the Play Test but got quickly disabled, because of some broken things.

[Fightdrug]

  On 12/24/2023 at 5:25 PM, SugaCane said:

Shunting was enabled in the Play Test but got quickly disabled, because of some broken things.

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the ones last december or the private ones ? 🤔

[SugaCane]

The last december one

[Fightdrug]

  On 12/24/2023 at 10:32 PM, SugaCane said:

The last december one

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really ? 😮 never notice that but must say i start with dispatching nearly at the end of the playtests 🥖

[Gazz292]

Shunting is one of the next things to be enabled in SimRail i believe... or it'll be added soon,  it's being worked on, 

At the very beginning of the playtests it was enabled, but as others have said, it caused problems so was disabled quickly.... hence why we can click on a screw coupler, but only get the option to 'cancel' 

The shunting signals also had to be disabled, but i think that was more due to trolls who were deliberately trying to de-rail or crash trains with them. 

[Fightdrug]

  On 1/17/2024 at 6:42 PM, Gazz292 said:

Shunting is one of the next things to be enabled in SimRail i believe... or it'll be added soon,  it's being worked on, 

At the very beginning of the playtests it was enabled, but as others have said, it caused problems so was disabled quickly.... hence why we can click on a screw coupler, but only get the option to 'cancel' 

The shunting signals also had to be disabled, but i think that was more due to trolls who were deliberately trying to de-rail or crash trains with them. 

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will be interesting anyway wondering how they wanna make dispatch people clear that cant read timetables that the train ends by them and need to be stored 😅

i mean normaly stuff you need to do with the train will be by operating instructions in the PC i guess 🤔

Edited January 17, 2024 by Fightdrug

[Gazz292]

yeah, i am wondering how the shunting stuff will be handled too, 

i know they have said it'll be fairly simple (at first?) just in the sidings and driving the loco forwards and backwards to collect waggons,
People have speculated about someone having a job as the 'shunter guy' who operates the couplings for you via radio commands (or vice versa, the shunting guy commands the loco driver to move)... but what happens when there are not 2 people on at the exact same time who want to do that, 

Does the driver run to the couplers to release them, or attach them and the brake hoses, then back to the loco?  

Does Poland have a version of those radio controlled shunting loco's (V60 / BR362/363) that Germany has? 

Could the shunting operations be totally separate from the main line running part of the dispatchers posts? 

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I am just guessing here,   and worry too about people who can barely click a few buttons to set up a straight through route correctly, having to also set multiple sets of points for the shunting at the same time as keep the main line running properly.

[Fightdrug]

  On 1/17/2024 at 8:34 PM, Gazz292 said:

yeah, i am wondering how the shunting stuff will be handled too, 

i know they have said it'll be fairly simple (at first?) just in the sidings and driving the loco forwards and backwards to collect waggons,
People have speculated about someone having a job as the 'shunter guy' who operates the couplings for you via radio commands (or vice versa, the shunting guy commands the loco driver to move)... but what happens when there are not 2 people on at the exact same time who want to do that, 

Does the driver run to the couplers to release them, or attach them and the brake hoses, then back to the loco?  

Does Poland have a version of those radio controlled shunting loco's (V60 / BR362/363) that Germany has? 

Could the shunting operations be totally separate from the main line running part of the dispatchers posts? 

:

I am just guessing here,   and worry too about people who can barely click a few buttons to set up a straight through route correctly, having to also set multiple sets of points for the shunting at the same time as keep the main line running properly.

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i just think it will a system message =? : like ,,train end at this station way from Signal xxx would lead the train outside of the station" or so

[jeroezie]

I expect that they will start fairly simple with shunting. For example, bring an passenger train from a siding to the platform. And then see how it goes and expand the shunting process in steps.

[Moooritz]

  On 1/17/2024 at 6:42 PM, Gazz292 said:

At the very beginning of the playtests it was enabled, but as others have said, it caused problems so was disabled quickly....

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Shunting is not ready yet. You can bug trains with that, because game and AI cannot handle shunting routes correctly. And you can stuck trains, when they cannot switch directions. That (was) the problem and I think that's why it was disabled. First actions will be shunting a EMU from a platform to a siding and then back to the platform.

[Fightdrug]

  On 1/18/2024 at 9:55 AM, Moooritz said:

Shunting is not ready yet. You can bug trains with that, because game and AI cannot handle shunting routes correctly. And you can stuck trains, when they cannot switch directions. That (was) the problem and I think that's why it was disabled. First actions will be shunting a EMU from a platform to a siding and then back to the platform.

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so as exemple the train spawm normaly in at katowice drive then to zawierce there he change the platforms and drive back to katowice and despawm then behind it 🤔

[GoppelPL]

  On 1/17/2024 at 8:34 PM, Gazz292 said:

People have speculated about someone having a job as the 'shunter guy' who operates the couplings for you via radio commands

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Nope, not happening

  On 1/17/2024 at 8:34 PM, Gazz292 said:

Does the driver run to the couplers to release them, or attach them and the brake hoses, then back to the loco?

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We do it IRL, and that's how it's going to look like in SimRail

  On 1/17/2024 at 8:34 PM, Gazz292 said:

Does Poland have a version of those radio controlled shunting loco's (V60 / BR362/363) that Germany has?

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There are a few (I mean, like a couple of individual locos) overhauled SM42s that can do that, DB Cargo is using the DE6400 that have the RC option in Poland, but I believe they didn't change the controller batteries since delivery 😉

  On 1/18/2024 at 11:54 AM, Fightdrug said:

so as exemple the train spawm normaly in at katowice drive then to zawierce there he change the platforms and drive back to katowice and despawm then behind it

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More like spawning in the morning, and then driving around in circles 🙂

[jeroezie]

  On 1/21/2024 at 2:58 AM, GoppelPL said:

There are a few (I mean, like a couple of individual locos) overhauled SM42s that can do that, DB Cargo is using the DE6400 that have the RC option in Poland, but I believe they didn't change the controller batteries since delivery 😉

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Theire are two batteries for the DE 6400 provided, so you can swap them out easely during your shift. A picture of the battery loader of the 6477 in The Netherlands i provided.

[Ensifer]

DE6400 used by DB Cargo in Poland does not work remotely - at least I don't know nothing about that. I didn't receive any training how to use that function anyway. BTW those locs are not very good shunting engines imo. The only "controller" that I saw (and it worked!) was for TEM2. Some engines have a big "remote" on a cable.

It would be nice to have some "local" freight trains but without working sidings it's useless.