Blacky Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Hey, I've noticed a very long "release" time of the electric brake in the E186. It takes longer than the release of the actual air brake, which just can't be as intended. Maybe you can check this. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMRAIL Team GoppelPL Posted May 17, 2023 SIMRAIL Team Share Posted May 17, 2023 Does this happen when driving only the loco as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lDestinyl Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 43 minutes ago, GoppelPL said: Does this happen when driving only the loco as well? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lDestinyl Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 hour ago, GoppelPL said: Does this happen when driving only the loco as well? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlost Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Same here. Has been like that for as long as I can remember so not an new issue. If you push&hold "brake release" button, dynamic is cut and you can get throttle straight away, if not, waiting game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 vor 8 Minuten schrieb Deadlost: Has been like that for as long as I can remember so not an new issue. Okay, I've so far only barely used the E186, just today as it has been put in front of many EC services. vor 9 Minuten schrieb Deadlost: If you push&hold "brake release" button, dynamic is cut and you can get throttle straight away, if not, waiting game. Thanks for the tip, I've also tried this, but as you don't really know how long you have to press that button, it's not really a proper solution. If you lift your finger of the brake releaser switch one second too early, power will immediately cut and that is very annoying. In the ED250 it's made correctly with the electric braking power going away as soon as the brake lever is set to release, regardless of how much the air cylinder brake (upper manometer) is filled (because I think that may be the issue). If you brake without air, so just electric, the loco doesn't have this weird behavior in releasing the brake afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lDestinyl Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 36 minutes ago, Deadlost said: Same here. Has been like that for as long as I can remember so not an new issue. If you push&hold "brake release" button, dynamic is cut and you can get throttle straight away, if not, waiting game. Yeah, but you have to keep the button pressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazT Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 I've cheated with this now and added a button to my Stream Deck labelled 'Brake Release Holdover' which runs a macro (and cleverly changes the button text to 'Active') and basically sends the brake release key command for 30 seconds (although I might up this to 45 seconds as even for 30 seconds it cuts out too early) I just thought it was me having trouble with this, the only other way of having a quick getaway, so long as the track is flat, was just to take the brakes off early and hope it doesn't roll! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schyrsivochter Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 It’s because the Traxx is by default running with brake setting G, meaning the brake (in this case, the electrodynamic brake) reacts somewhat slowly to changes in brake pipe pressure. This is correct for long and heavy goods trains, but rubbish for passenger trains. You can change it on the left-side screen. Press 8, navigate down to the setting that’s set to ‘G’, press the number key that says P (goods/light engine) or R (EC/IC etc.), press 0, press C. Now the electrodynamic brake should follow brake pipe pressure much more closely. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazT Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 (edited) Oooo, I'll give it a go! I was looking for a brake changeover switch on the bulkhead behind the drivers seat where stuff like that normally is, but couldn't find one, evidently 🤣 Edited May 28, 2023 by DazT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazT Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Schyrsivochter said: It’s because the Traxx is by default running with brake setting G, meaning the brake (in this case, the electrodynamic brake) reacts somewhat slowly to changes in brake pipe pressure. This is correct for long and heavy goods trains, but rubbish for passenger trains. You can change it on the left-side screen. Press 8, navigate down to the setting that’s set to ‘G’, press the number key that says P (goods/light engine) or R (EC/IC etc.), press 0, press C. Now the electrodynamic brake should follow brake pipe pressure much more closely. That worked a treat, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sf_giants15 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Am 28.5.2023 um 09:40 schrieb Schyrsivochter: It’s because the Traxx is by default running with brake setting G, meaning the brake (in this case, the electrodynamic brake) reacts somewhat slowly to changes in brake pipe pressure. This is correct for long and heavy goods trains, but rubbish for passenger trains. You can change it on the left-side screen. Press 8, navigate down to the setting that’s set to ‘G’, press the number key that says P (goods/light engine) or R (EC/IC etc.), press 0, press C. Now the electrodynamic brake should follow brake pipe pressure much more closely. do you know how to change it for the ET25? I believe its also in "P" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SugaCane Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 In the ET25 you can't switch the brake types at the moment . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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