AI dispatchers text to speech radio calls

[Gazz292]

Idea for an optional feature,  have the AI dispatchers send a radio message as well as the text message, using the text to speech thing that reads out the platform announcements.

Something like 'Korytów AI dispatcher here, train 16131 your route is cleared through to Szeligi' .... 

'Opoczno Południe AI dispatcher calling train 24138, entrance set to track number 3 for your scheduled stop'

 

Not sure if it would be best to have it only audible to the train in question, or to everyone in range, i know some servers have a lot of radio chatter, but the EN1 server is usually pretty quiet at times, with just a few dispatchers making radio calls to bring it alive and add to the immersion.

[Deadlost]

What is the "realistic" amount of calls made on the radio?

As a driver I just tend to respond to what ever calls I get or when stopped at signal without call from dispatcher. As dispatcher I keep it minimal, like change of platform/overtaking etc.

I find the constant "request clearence thru your station" a bit over the top, but if its realistic for polish ops...

[Fightdrug]

dont think thats a good idea i can hear people allready screaming on the DE servers ,,i dont speak english please say again in german" while they think the signalbox is in use from a player because someone say something i guess at the end many people will find it anoying 😕 the chat messages were AI stay behind it are the best solution i think 🙂

[Atoka220]

On 9/15/2023 at 8:13 PM, Gazz292 said:

Not sure if it would be best to have it only audible to the train in question, or to everyone in range, i know some servers have a lot of radio chatter, but the EN1 server is usually pretty quiet at times, with just a few dispatchers making radio calls to bring it alive and add to the immersion.

It should be like a radio. The current method works good as radios and chat have a limited range in game. I think it's about 10-20km but not sure

As for realistic amout of using radio per Deadlost's question, in Hungary noone even says anything. Trains here are fully controlled by signals. If something's urgent, the driver calls the station with his service phone or vice versa
Radio is only used in shunting and sometimes on big stations like Budapest's stations to help the dispatchers keep track of which train is where exactly 

But of course since this is a Polish sim, I'd be more curious about how poles do it

 

Edited Monday at 02:09 PM by Atoka220

[Gazz292]

apparently on the Polish railway the radio is used a lot, some stations you have to use the radio to tell the dispatcher you are ready to depart....

Stations with a ;zd on the timetable entry means you need a 'written order' to depart... this is something that's issued over the radio i believe? 

and i believe the guard / conductor also uses their handheld radio to tell the train driver they have finished loading passengers and secured the doors.  

It's handy that the AI dispatchers tell you when they have changed their signal to green when you have passed a restrictive signal and are slowing down preparing to stop... when the next signal is over 1.5 km away.
But they do this via the text chat system which i have to keep opening and closing.  so having them announce that your route is now clear through their post over the radio as well as the text box is what i'm thinking of.

[Fightdrug]

vor 3 Stunden schrieb Atoka220:

It should be like a radio. The current method works good as radios and chat have a limited range in game. I think it's about 10-20km but not sure

As for realistic amout of using radio per Deadlost's question, in Hungary noone even says anything. Trains here are fully controlled by signals. If something's urgent, the driver calls the station with his service phone or vice versa
Radio is only used in shunting and sometimes on big stations like Budapest's stations to help the dispatchers keep track of which train is where exactly 

But of course since this is a Polish sim, I'd be more curious about how poles do it

text chat is 9 km 🙂 and voice chat 19 km

[Atoka220]

On 9/18/2023 at 4:14 PM, Gazz292 said:

Stations with a ;zd on the timetable entry means you need a 'written order' to depart... this is something that's issued over the radio i believe? 

As it's a written order, it'd be handed over to you by a traffic control worker (by the dispatchers themselves here) and sign it

 

Also do polish railways utilize dispatchers with batons?
In my country, the dispatcher sounds their whistle, then the conductor signals him or her that they are ready to depart, then the dispatcher would authorize the train driver to depart with the baton. If the station has no dispatcher to do it, then the train crew (conductor) signals the driver to depart with a disk raised high
This would be a nice addition and a sure way to know when to depart, if it can be animated but only if it happens in Poland of course and they aren't really doing it all on radio 😁

 

Edited Tuesday at 08:06 PM by Atoka220
messed up with the pic lol

[Gazz292]

i'm sure i read in the PKP rulebook about some 'written orders' that are transmitted over the radio,  i.e. read out by the dispatcher and the driver fills in the relevant form, 

[Zapach Kreozotu]

W dniu 19.09.2023 o 15:58, Atoka220 napisał(a):

Also do polish railways utilize dispatchers with batons?

Very seldom nowadays. None of the stations covered by SimRail has platform dispatchers in real life.

W dniu 18.09.2023 o 16:14, Gazz292 napisał(a):

and i believe the guard / conductor also uses their handheld radio to tell the train driver they have finished loading passengers and secured the doors

Yeah, on loco-hauled services just as an auxiliary means of communication. Rp14 hand signal is what allows the driver to move.

On multiple units where the driver controls the doors, the Rp13 is the signal allowing the driver to close doors and move off and it's given through a handheld radio.

The dispatch process is a mess.

W dniu 18.09.2023 o 16:14, Gazz292 napisał(a):

Stations with a ;zd on the timetable entry means you need a 'written order' to depart

No, it means "zmiana drużyny". Change of train crew.

20 godzin temu, Gazz292 napisał(a):

i'm sure i read in the PKP rulebook about some 'written orders' that are transmitted over the radio,  i.e. read out by the dispatcher and the driver fills in the relevant form, 

That is correct 🙂

[Zapach Kreozotu]

Here is an example of dispatch of a loco hauled train. 

 

 

[Gazz292]

ahhh yes... ;zd is indeed change of train crew, 

 

is it 'R307' on the timetable that means written order needed to depart?  and this is usually shown on the station where the crew change is made? 

 

I have so much spinning in my head i get things mixed up at times. 

[Zapach Kreozotu]

17 godzin temu, Gazz292 napisał(a):

is it 'R307' on the timetable that means written order needed to depart?

Yes, R307 is another name for the "O" written order. 

17 godzin temu, Gazz292 napisał(a):

and this is usually shown on the station where the crew change is made?

Often, yes, but it doesn't have to be the case. 

There are situations where the crew changes at a small station. R307s are issued rather at larger ones.