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Hello,

I know this shouldn't happen when using the train brake properly, but when remaining in the "S" position for too long, the brakes of the wagons can't be released anymore without using the "S" position. I don't know of any locomotive in the game that allows the main pipe pressure to be that ridiculously high (7.7 bar) for a longer time. As you can see in my screenshots, the cylinder pressures go up to 2.1 bar every time the main pipe pressure is below 7.7 bar, and normal braking isn't possible anymore. The cylinder pressures also won't restore themselves just by waiting. Is there any way to reset this condition in a scenario?

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Hi, 

this is not a bug, this is how the loco behaves in reality. 

The thing is - "Š" position is a high-pressure brake overload. In reality, you either don't use this position at all, or for a few seconds at most, on freight trains. By rising the main pipe pressure to 7.7 bar, the coaches will thing this is the initial, unbraked value, and they will brake every time the pressure is bellow the value. 

Use "P" position instead. It will rise the pressure to 5.4 bar, and it will slowly fall to 5 bar in time of 3 minutes, so the wagons won't react to this. 

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On 1/26/2026 at 4:30 PM, Maty556677 said:

Hi, 

this is not a bug, this is how the loco behaves in reality. 

The thing is - "Š" position is a high-pressure brake overload. In reality, you either don't use this position at all, or for a few seconds at most, on freight trains. By rising the main pipe pressure to 7.7 bar, the coaches will thing this is the initial, unbraked value, and they will brake every time the pressure is bellow the value. 

Use "P" position instead. It will rise the pressure to 5.4 bar, and it will slowly fall to 5 bar in time of 3 minutes, so the wagons won't react to this. 

HI,

I have the excact same problem.

The fact is that first in real life you have the real feeling of the brake lever, and second if you keep the brake pipe at 7 bar for just a couple of seconds and you return to 5 immediately the brake cylinders keep 0 bar. In game you can go to the "S" position too easiliy and even you keep that position for just a fraction of second you're pretty much screwed since as soon as you return the brake pipe at 5 bar the brake cylinders go up, so you would need to keep the "S" position to contnue driving with the brake pipe at 7 bar which is super unrealistic and also when you go to "driving" position the brakes apply hard.

Devs need either to make much harder to go into "S" position, add a brake cycilinders relase valve for each car and coach (TSW have this on some newer cars and coaches) or rework the entire brake system from the ground up

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I thought about adding button in F8 menu for releasing of distributor valves of each wagon, but this is kind of tricky and not trivial in our system. Each valve has the releaser implemented, but not necessarily designed to be operated in such way.  

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10 hours ago, Królik Uszasty said:

I thought about adding button in F8 menu for releasing of distributor valves of each wagon, but this is kind of tricky and not trivial in our system. Each valve has the releaser implemented, but not necessarily designed to be operated in such way.  

It would be very cool, if we could pull the air. If the braje releaser handels on the wagons or carriaged actually worked, it would be evdn better (and a good reason for the driver to not overcharge the brake, even when one can pull the air). Very handy for the Ty2 too.

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