ES1 Closed (They leave us homeless forever)

[Bender07]

4 minutes ago, fsim70 said:

I am sorry as a Polish citizen for you my dear Spanish friends.😔

Unfortunately, in my country things are done even in 2025 with "wire and thread" 😡(Polish proverb).

Which means first we'll do something and see what happens and endure to the end.
However, I do not think there is any nationalistic reason for this.

Lo siento, no hay ninguna razón nacionalista (de España). Internacionalmente se llama español, pero me refiero también a países que están en América cuya lengua también es el español, de ahí viene español (habla hispana), es lo mismo. En Colombia qué idioma se habla, y en Ecuador ?? Pues hay muchos más países con este idioma en común. Exactamente no sé si te has referido a esto o no.

[fsim70]

Vor 18 Minuten schrieb Bender07:

Sieht so aus, noch nicht einmal die nationale Nation (in Spanien). International ist es Spanisch, aber ich überlege auch, ob es sich in Amerika um eine Sprache dobret, bei der es auch Spanisch ist, aber ich habe kein Spanisch (habla hispana), das ist nicht so. In Kolumbien ist die Redewendung, und in Ecuador?? Es gibt noch viel mehr Länder mit dieser gemeinsamen Sprache. Exactamente no sé si te has referido a thiso o no.

Schade, dass sie noch keinen Server für Nordkorea und Russland haben. Es könnte auch für Spanien (❤️) geopfert werden oder was?!! - Sarkasmus, hat nichts mit den normalen armen Bürgern dieser Länder zu tun.

 

 

 

 

Edited Monday at 05:59 PM by fsim70

[Bender07]

2 minutes ago, fsim70 said:

Schade, dass sie noch keinen Server für Nordkorea und Russland haben. Es könnte auch für Spanien (❤️) geopfert werden oder was?!! - Sarkasmus, hat nichts mit den normalen armen Bürgern dieser Länder zu tun.

Vale, fSim, gracias por entenderlo! (...)

[franky83]

At this point I am going to say that all the arguments that the team was giving us are somewhat shameful, and they have only changed the name, to continue having empty servers? It is a bit sad, isn't it? I am going to allow myself to recommend that you change your public relations and marketing team, because you have lost the communication and argumentation issues.

[uetam]

18 minut temu, franky83 napisał(a):

[...] have only changed the name, to continue having empty servers? 

What is stopping you from using this servers if the only thing that has changed is the name?
We have converted all servers with low player usage to international servers, and the Spanish-speaking community is welcome to use them. You may notice that none of these servers have defined language in name or description. We will do the same with other language dedicated servers if player usage is low enough.

[franky83]

Nothing stops it, it's correct. But it is a detail of removing the only dedicated Spanish-speaking one. I repeat, an ugly detail.

[uetam]

Teraz, franky83 napisał(a):

Nothing stops it, it's correct. But it is a detail of removing the only dedicated Spanish-speaking one. I repeat, an ugly detail.

We also removed CN, and UA servers today and HU,NL,PT and IT in the past.

[Kaito Kid]

2 hours ago, uetam said:

It was deleted a month ago and no one noticed. That says a lot about user activity on this forum.

 

Who says no one noticed?🤣You? Thing is that I at least don't have much time to enter here as much as I would like, but trust me that I did notice some days ago and I was expecting some kind of announcement/correction or even a note on behalf of you guys saying something about deleting it, but it seems that I expect too much from people that more than trying to calm things down they simply like adding more coal to this fire.😂Anyways, I was about to post something regarding this topic but as I said, I'm not here 24/7 to say this and that, so I would like you to don't take me or us for fools please and once again, you people (or in this case you) instead of giving a straightforward answer are blaming us for no noticing? If you think giving a straightforward answer is worse that running around in circles like you're doing and blaming us like in this matter, you're wrong. 😅

This ain't serious man. 

Also I see that you have time to reply one of my messages @uetam, could you please reply also to my 1st one (and many others asking the same thing) about if Simrail is going to allow 3rd party content (be it freeware or payware) on multiplayer? Or if 3rd party content is on the table at all.... Also it would be good to put on the table the debate for private servers so things like these won't happen again, but instead of creating a constructive debate with constructive criticism and trying to calm things down, no, moar coal... Doesn't help the mocking that I saw somewhere in an official discord too (at least that's my impression using a translator)...

Letting the topic of deletion of servers apart and the unanswered questions aside... A lot of us care about the game, I have been playing since the playtests and I've recommended this simulator to a lot of people and we do participate when our time allows us, would I like it to be it more often? Hell yeah.

Anyways, do what you want but if you accept suggestions, your "blame" towards us/me looks more like a mock to me, cause you tell me that no one noticed. but reading all this concerning to the deletion of the ES server and seeing that no one cares about answering questions let me ask you something... Would it have change something at all if I was 24/7 here and opened a post asking about it? Let me guess...

 

No, it wouldn't have changed anything at all, so again, don't take us for fools.

 

[jmluengor]

 

Como usuario de SimRail desde la versión Early Access, al igual que miles de usuarios de este simulador, he confiado desde el principio en que iría mejorando. Lo ha hecho poco, realmente, y principalmente gracias a los informes de errores que pacientemente todos hemos ido descubriendo y de los que se ha informado a los desarrolladores.

También han sido los usuarios, entre otros muchos los creadores de actividades, quienes han contribuido a mejorar el simulador. 

La opción Multijugador nos ha permitido efectuar recorridos menos largos que las tediosas e interminables actividades que no podíamos guardar, y que se reiniciaban de nuevo (al igual que los tutoriales) cada vez que se actualizaba el simulador. 

Se anunció y distribuyó la supuesta versión final para el 13 de diciembre, que carecía del editor, de la posibilidad de guardar las largas actividades (para mí lo más importante) y que seguía incluyendo viejos errores ya reportados. Lo hemos asumido y hemos seguido jugando.

Un mes después, el equipo de SimRail decide cancelar el servidor que nos sirve de vínculo a cientos de usuarios de habla hispana. No voy a enumerar aquí la interminable lista de países en los que se habla español. No es mi intención.

Estoy decepcionado.

 

English translation:

 

As a SimRail user since Early Access, like thousands of SimRail users, I have trusted from the beginning that it will improve. It has done so little, really, and mainly thanks to the bug reports that we have all patiently discovered and that the developers have been informed of.

It has also been the users, among many other activity creators, who have contributed to improving the simulator.

The Multiplayer option has allowed us to run shorter runs than the tedious and endless activities that we couldn't save, and that restarted again (as did the tutorials) every time the simulator was updated. 

The supposed final version was announced and distributed for December 13, which lacked the editor, the possibility of saving the long activities (for me the most important thing) and which continued to include old errors already reported. We have accepted it and we have continued to play.

A month later, the SimRail team decides to cancel the server that serves as a link to hundreds of Spanish-speaking users. I am not going to list here the endless list of countries in which Spanish is spoken. I don't mean to.

I'm disappointed.

 

 

[alberto30mb]

What a HUGE error to exclude Spanish speakers and a big community (all of Spain and South America, the second language in the USA...) from the multiplayer server.

What about non-English speakers? How will they be able to manage the stations? How will they be able to communicate when driving the trains? This wasn´t a problem in the Spanish server because they could use Spanish.

Maybe the developer team should care more about the promises (VR, hardware devices support, multi-screen, private multiplayer servers, etc) rather than mess around with the community.

I have loved the game since the first minute, but I don´t love the way the promises keep being promises and how you guys are removing the Spanish speaker's server.

I hope you reconsider your "moderation-friendly" decision and take back a server for Spanish speakers (a lot of people in the world).

Edited Monday at 06:50 PM by alberto30mb

[KerythRix]

Hace 1 hora, uetam dijo:

También eliminamos los servidores CN y UA hoy y HU, NL, PT e IT en el pasado.

ES

¿Eso justifica que se haya eliminado el servidor Español, y con los modales y engaños como se ha llevado a cabo?. Yo creo que no. Y te puedo asegurar que la amplia comunidad Española y Sudamericana está muy enfadada con el trato que nos ha dispensado SimRail a todos los hispanos hablantes. 

Edited Monday at 08:05 PM by KerythRix

[GonzaSimPlayer]

 

 

From the heart, I love SimRail.

Obviously, it has its bad points, like everything, but it is the greatest hope we have had in the history of railway simulation.

I am 38 years old, and luckily or unfortunately, I am a fan of these niche games, in my worst days some of these games help me a lot. 

Since flight simulator 2000, Microsoft Train Simulator, or 18-wheeler, I have lived in these worlds of little-used, unpopular, and often outdated simulators due to the little interest they generate in the general public.

Simrail was the step I had always dreamed of. Latest generation graphics, editor, and above all... multiplayer. What more could I ask for when I saw the first trailer and put this game on my wishlist on Steam. When I tried the prologue, I could finally see in my hands that everything was about to change.

After decades of simulators that received little attention from the general public and therefore from developers, we could have a train simulator where all fans could not only play but "share."
That word didn't exist in railway simulation, apart from the Polish simulator that existed before, not in this way, not on Steam, for everyone, not just for one country. 

I never cared that the trains were from a country so far from mine, or that I didn't know how to pronounce its stations. I fell in love from the first day with its lines, trains, and control stations.

I could finally drive with real people being dispatchers, just as I have done for many years on flight networks like IVAO or VATSIM. I knew this day would come.

Sometimes small gestures turn a niche game into a much-loved game. It happened to "among us" long after its release, or it has happened to the Euro Truck Simulator saga.
Do you think that truck simulator is such a popular game because players loved trucks before? I assure you, NO. They become random players to truck lovers.
It is loved for its business model and because it was able to turn around a game that had 300 players when it was released to the numbers it has now.
Eliminating communities of other languages does not attract a new potential audience. It may be a saving now, but a loss in the future.
Spanish, German or Polish players, even developers, we have the same love for this niche; if we do not take care of it, it will die.
It may be very fun to put the red light on a person of another language on your server, but the damage is done to yourself  because these are people who will never drive trains again. I can go to DCS, MSFS, or IRACING/ACC right now and never play SimRail again. But we love trains, we must take care of each other, or this will disappear.

Thanks to these simulators, I was a truck driver for 10 years, got my real-life pilot's license, and now I'm planning to travel to Katowice to enjoy a great trip on the pendolino.
Once again, in this small community, either we all support each other, or we'll end up in other games, and railway simulation will disappear.

Sorry for the long text; it's just my thoughts. thank you

 

 

[KerythRix]

8 hours ago, GonzaSimPlayer said:

Desde el corazón, amo SimRail.

Obviamente tiene sus puntos malos, como todo, pero es la mayor esperanza que hemos tenido en la historia de la simulación ferroviaria.

Tengo 38 años, y por suerte o por desgracia soy fan de estos juegos de nicho, en mis peores días algunos de estos juegos me ayudan mucho. 

Desde el simulador de vuelo 2000, Microsoft Train Simulator o 18-wheeler, he vivido en estos mundos de simuladores poco utilizados, impopulares y a menudo obsoletos debido al poco interés que generan en el público general.

Simrail fue el paso que siempre había soñado. Gráficos de última generación, editor y sobre todo... multijugador. Qué más podía pedir cuando vi el primer tráiler y anoté este juego en mi lista de deseos en Steam. Cuando probé el prólogo, por fin pude ver en mis manos que todo estaba a punto de cambiar.

Tras décadas de simuladores que recibieron poca atención por parte del público en general y, por tanto, de los desarrolladores, podríamos tener un simulador de trenes en el que todos los aficionados no sólo pudieran jugar, sino "compartir".
Esa palabra no existía en la simulación ferroviaria, aparte del simulador polaco que existía antes, no de esta manera, no en Steam, para todos, no sólo para un país. 

Nunca me importó que los trenes fueran de un país tan lejano al mío, ni que no supiera pronunciar sus estaciones. Me enamoré desde el primer día de sus líneas, trenes y estaciones de control.

Por fin podía conducir con personas reales que actuaban como controladores, tal como lo he hecho durante muchos años en redes de vuelo como IVAO o VATSIM. Sabía que este día llegaría.

A veces pequeños gestos convierten un juego de nicho en un juego muy querido. Le pasó a “Among Us” mucho después de su lanzamiento, o le ha pasado a la saga Euro Truck Simulator.
¿Crees que Truck Simulator es un juego tan popular porque a los jugadores les encantaban los camiones antes? Te aseguro que NO. Pasan a ser jugadores aleatorios los amantes de los camiones.
Es querido por su modelo de negocio y porque fue capaz de dar la vuelta a un juego que tenía 300 jugadores cuando se lanzó a las cifras que tiene ahora.
Eliminar comunidades de otros idiomas no atrae a una nueva audiencia potencial. Puede ser un ahorro ahora, pero una pérdida en el futuro.
Jugadores españoles, alemanes o polacos, incluso desarrolladores, tenemos el mismo amor por este nicho; si no lo cuidamos, morirá.
Puede ser muy divertido poner la luz roja a una persona de otro idioma en tu servidor, pero el daño lo haces tú mismo porque se trata de gente que nunca más conducirá trenes. Puedo irme a DCS, MSFS o IRACING/ACC ahora mismo y no volver a jugar a SimRail. Pero amamos los trenes, debemos cuidarnos unos a otros, o esto desaparecerá.

Gracias a estos simuladores fui camionero durante 10 años, obtuve mi licencia de piloto real y ahora estoy planeando viajar a Katowice para disfrutar de un gran viaje en el pendolino.
Una vez más, en esta pequeña comunidad, o nos apoyamos todos o terminaremos en otros juegos y la simulación ferroviaria desaparecerá.

Perdón por el texto tan largo, son solo mis pensamientos. Gracias.

Después de leer en el Discord oficial como hace referencia a toda la comunidad española con desprecio,  y la situación forzada a la que hemos sido abocados por parte de @uetam y SimRail. Únicamente nos quedan las horas invertidas en este juego. En mi caso más de 1700. Por supuesto, el cariño y las amistades recogidas por el camino en este juego. Esa es la única nota positiva que me deja SimRail a día de hoy. La herida abierta sangrará. @uetamse podrá mofar todo lo que quiera de los Españoles, sudamericanos y del idioma (después de leer el hilo en el Discord Polaco me quedan claras muchas cosas) nunca podrá arrebatarnos las maravillosas personas que nos hemos ido encontrando por el camino. Solo me queda apuntar la reflexión que se expuso ayer en el directo. “No os hagáis con los DLCs. El juego y el Cargo Pack, nos lo comemos. Ahí no podemos hacer nada actualmente. Pero valorar si queréis invertir vuestro dinero en una empresa que os desprecia y os excluye de sus servidores”. 
 

Gracias a todos los amigos y  amigas que nos hemos encontrado por las vías, y recordar, juegos hay muchos, y lugares donde encontrarnos para disfrutarlos también, sin recibir desprecios directos como el que hemos vivido y confirmado a posteriori en el Discord Polaco. 
 

Nos oímos!. 😊

[GonzaSimPlayer]

One thing that has saddened me about the Simrail team is their lack of gratitude.

I'm going to say this from my love for Poland. Katowice - Warsaw is not an attractive line for spaniards who lives thousands of kilometres away.

It's not the ICE, AVE or TGV. It's not Berlin or Paris or London or Madrid.

You may think that there are few Spaniards  on Simrail, but how many Polands and Spaniards would there be on Simrail if the line was Seville-Madrid?

Spaniards are so faithful, because 80% of railway fans are still playing train simulator classic every day. A game from 2009 in 2025. 

Even I heard spaniards who are in this topic to say yesterday in private " simrail is still amaizing and we love it BUT...."

Spanish community in train simulator classic developed their own free routes, trains and even security system (ASFA). they play it every day. Maybe if private servers and editor was available on simrai all that people would like to developed their own routes from Spain and you will see what community is bigger.

There's more videos in YouTube from train simulator classic than simrail from the Spanish community.

You should be grateful that people who live thousands of kilometres away have paid for, played and loved a line that is so unpopular worldwide like this.

 

Have a nice day

 

 

Edited yesterday at 09:00 AM by GonzaSimPlayer

[franky83]

7 hours ago, GonzaSimPlayer said:

La comunidad española de Train Simulator Classic ha desarrollado sus propias rutas, trenes e incluso un sistema de seguridad (ASFA) gratuitos. Lo juegan todos los días. Tal vez si hubiera servidores privados y un editor disponibles en Simrai, a toda esa gente le gustaría desarrollar sus propias rutas desde España y verás que la comunidad es más grande.

I think it’s time to comment on another issue, related to this. And that is, when the SimRail team asked for groups that wanted to collaborate to make DLC, routes, material and so on from different countries, a group of Spanish developers offered themselves, a brief contact was maintained, a project was made, the route, rolling stock were planned… a very well planned project by very good people with script programmers and creators of material and other things that you surely use in TS classic… it was presented to them… and we didn’t even get an answer. Just silence. They must have realized the sad reality, and that is that a route from Spain, with the few users here, was not of interest (Attitude that sounds like DTG to me). Nothing happens, you will have it for free when the SimRail tools come out (if they do). I am going to encourage these people to create a thread like the colleagues from Sweden are doing, showing things that they are making ready to export and implement, let’s see if they are encouraged. If they do, you'll see who they are, and then we'll be able to cry even more. 

[Niinox]

Joining this discussion because it seems to be the primary one for the servers being shuttered. 

SimRail team, please, prioritize backend functionality for people to host their own dedicated servers. Allow groups to have their own communities/build their own setups. There's already one route without any online community because there's no server for it (80s). And it has extremely limited function with the built-in scenarios. Which is a shame because the Ty2 is magnificent.

There's more coming, and unless you're going to host servers in house for every map you put out, and worry about language issues therein, we're going to need the ability to put together servers to run ourselves. 

Personally I would love to be able to launch a dedicated server, run a timetable, and either give my friends a password or allow the community at large in and self-moderate. It takes pressure off you to both run the server and administrate individual issues/reports.

Please.

[Nightmare]

3 hours ago, Niinox said:

Joining this discussion because it seems to be the primary one for the servers being shuttered. 

SimRail team, please, prioritize backend functionality for people to host their own dedicated servers. Allow groups to have their own communities/build their own setups. There's already one route without any online community because there's no server for it (80s). And it has extremely limited function with the built-in scenarios. Which is a shame because the Ty2 is magnificent.

There's more coming, and unless you're going to host servers in house for every map you put out, and worry about language issues therein, we're going to need the ability to put together servers to run ourselves. 

Personally I would love to be able to launch a dedicated server, run a timetable, and either give my friends a password or allow the community at large in and self-moderate. It takes pressure off you to both run the server and administrate individual issues/reports.

Please.

I agree with this entirely.

If the developers and publishers want to "save money" by cutting down on inactive servers, perhaps the focus should be giving players the ability to host their own, as that would be the best way to pass on the cost. I feel like this should be the first focus, and a rather common sense one, rather than upsetting those who thoroughly enjoyed having a server specific to their language to avoid language barriers.

Make servers open to those interested in running them, and then you can cut down on most if not all server costs.

[txus]

7 hours ago, franky83 said:

I think it’s time to comment on another issue, related to this. And that is, when the SimRail team asked for groups that wanted to collaborate to make DLC, routes, material and so on from different countries, a group of Spanish developers offered themselves, a brief contact was maintained, a project was made, the route, rolling stock were planned… a very well planned project by very good people with script programmers and creators of material and other things that you surely use in TS classic… it was presented to them… and we didn’t even get an answer. Just silence. They must have realized the sad reality, and that is that a route from Spain, with the few users here, was not of interest (Attitude that sounds like DTG to me). Nothing happens, you will have it for free when the SimRail tools come out (if they do). I am going to encourage these people to create a thread like the colleagues from Sweden are doing, showing things that they are making ready to export and implement, let’s see if they are encouraged. If they do, you'll see who they are, and then we'll be able to cry even more. 

 

I will not beat around the bush today, we have not obtained any response to our development team, we have wasted time, which is a complete lack of respect, the material was presented as the 446-447-470, 333 plus rolling stock to recreate the route Madrid-Avila, which was created all the documentation they had requested, we had a conversation first with Filip Dragon through Teams, we sent the documentation, not getting any response or lack of interest by the Rail Sim team, or by a superior boss gave the order to pass us, while the Americans already had the presentation of his project, it seems that the Spanish community do not care anything at all, they are not interested in capturing more users, what they have created is discomfort and rightly to the entire Spanish community, and more for the disappearance of the ES1 which has already exhausted the patience of all.

 Why to go through the cashier, as the purchase of DLC. we are all equal without distinction and then for other issues we are completely ignored?, the policy is as they have already said above is resembling the DTG, with constant deception.

 

Edited 15 hours ago by txus