Bad dispatching and idle alert

[Aldarion]

Last saturday I was driving an ECE service out of  Warsaw. MY first scheduled stop was Opoczno Poludnie. Due to an erro by a human dispatcher ( I dont care who it was) the path was not done for the platform but rather continue on the main track. Nevertheless the HUD displayed the distance to stop and I stoped at near zero... called for the dispatcher to advice on the error (in between all this the originaldispatcher that commited the mistake left and another took his place). The same thing happened to a train bound to Warsaw so we spend 7 minutes there, trying to figure it out and even  help the dispatcher.

Now the main issue. While I was stoped, the idle alarm activated three times and took control of my train  those same three times. As far as realism is concerned I believe I acted correctly in stoping the train and ask for advice, wether should I procees or make myself available for shunting operations to stop the train at the platform... (and there was an ED250 behind me) now I dont pretend to know PKP regulations on dealing with these situations, but what should have I done to avoid the idle alert and still remain stoped while the situation was cleared? (IF I should have remained stopped at all... wich I believe I should)

Edited February 6, 2023 by Aldarion

[Schyrsivochter]

I feel you.

I was driving an EIJ 13xx the other day, from Warszawa. At Psary these turn left towards Starzyny. The dispatcher at Psary, inexperienced and inattentive, had a bit of a jam already and thus sent me to track no. 6. While entering, I read the chat message saying that the route from signal Ps_K would lead train 13xx (my number) in the wrong direction, so when exit signal K showed Sz, I proceeded with extra caution. If the dispatcher had been meaning to send me to LK 570 towards Starzyny, points 27 would likely have been set to straight. It wasn’t, so I stopped and called the dispatcher.

While we were talking, the inactivity warning came on. I couldn’t disable it, and the bot took over and set the train into motion onto points 27. I took back control and told the dispatcher that I was headed the wrong way. Fortunately they realised their mistake and set points 40 and 41 to diverging so I could proceed towards Starzyny as intended (and not towards Góra Włodowska as I otherwise would have).

[Aldarion]

It is most stresfful having the control taken. It think the best way to do it would be the idle alarm to work as Dead-man-switch while a train is stopped, thus, effectively working as an AFK detector.

Edited February 7, 2023 by Aldarion
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[Gazz292]

well,  the PKP regulations do not cover the occasional asshat who thinks it's fun to take control of a train with the sole intention of stopping it on the line blocking others, and leave it like that all day whilst they go to troll people on arsecomic or what ever it's called. 

That's why there is the idle detector in the sim,  as back during the playtests, some people did just that,   when the player idle detector was first implicated it was a lot stricter, working on a simple countdown timer, so being stuck at a red light you have to keep resetting it,  at least now it leaves you alone until your light is green etc. 

 

But i always thought that pressing the SHP/czuwak button reset the idle detector?  

[-1PARA-AlexKall]

On 2/7/2023 at 12:24 PM, Aldarion said:

It is most stresfful having the control taken. It think the best way to do it would be the idle alarm to work as Dead-man-switch while a train is stopped, thus, effectively working as an AFK detector.

You can turn those off in the ED250 (which I personally like).

Edited February 10, 2023 by -1PARA-AlexKall

[Aldarion]

On 2/7/2023 at 2:22 PM, Gazz292 said:

But i always thought that pressing the SHP/czuwak button reset the idle detector?  

No. Didn't do it... _that's why i thought that would just be a matter of 'telling' the sim I was not AFK..